| GB Oils is it bad Drivers,Mangers or a bad Union. I have been asked by a few driver just when is the Union going to get of it's backside and help? the workforce that pays their "fat wages | (Driver One) I would just like say what a shower gb oils are recently took a winter relief drivers which was supposed to last 5 months, 2months in, the board whoever they may be decided in there wise wisdom due to current conditions to finish the contract leaving me high and dry. I am just wondered how many people would take a job for 2 months not many i would suggest they also seem to have a habit of getting rid of shop steward s perhaps they something to hide but my sympathy lies with all you guys that are left because they have no value of drivers who are experienced or otherwise. What a ruthless shower for such a big company with such a narrow vision anyone wishing to contact me feel free and i will tell it how it is. (Driver Two) I was a driver at F Peart Co for 15 years till this monster came in and turned the place upside down,like above i was driving a wagon that had been apparently scrapped 2 weeks before,so i was driving a veh which was declared scrapped,yet they claim to be realy strict on vehicle roadworthyness lol!!they treat me like shxt for my last 2 mnths till i left and went to an independent company.nearly all gb drivers cant stand who they work for now,they are also worried that 1 mistake and your out the door if they so wish.i hate this company and so do many others,goodluck gb oils drivers..... |
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Gb oils is it bad Drivers, bad Mangers or a bad Union
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What union does it still exist?
ReplyDeletethe whole company is just a shower of shit. too many cheifs who are all looking for extra bullshit to do to prove they are indispensible and customers deserting the gb oils companys because prices are high and we are ripping them off. We are going under boys fight for your jobs because nobody else will
ReplyDeletetheres still 2 agency drivers in the s. s. e. region yet most drivers are finishing well before there 8 hours.wheres tyhe sense in that!!!!still only 2 months till fuelcare are intergrated with the rest of us,then watch for the redundencies via the points system.
ReplyDeletethe way the so called hr staff send letters all with threating remarks to drivers/and dont pay drivers who come in and do a few hours work and have to go home due to illness and dont get payed and get away with it..shite attitude to staff terrible company to work for ,hope one day i can tell them to stick the job right up there a..e
ReplyDeletetwo many monkeys paid peanuts so what do you exept
ReplyDeleteWell we have a most of them in our depot in Scotland and not all drivers
ReplyDeletehello driver 1 here again nice to see all the other comments which dont seem to be very positive once again good luck all you survivors of the ruthless whirlwind that is gb oils like all storms it will blow itself out rest assured driver 1 norfolk
ReplyDeleteD.c.c.? i think that means dirty crapy crude! ha! why is it everyone seems to know that all the best drivers, managers, ect who have been forced out, or sacked or whatever, are now performing marvels at other fuel companys and seem to realy enjoy there jobs and are taking more and more workload away from g.b! well fair play to them all & keep it up!it then maybe good bye oils or gone bump oils!
ReplyDeleteg b oils will always be a shower of shit untill all the drivers stand together the union is only as good as the men who stand by each other
ReplyDeleteunion really i'll tell you they dont care a fuck about you as long as your money goes in and pay's for likes of matt draper's £55000 a year who really is useless swaning around the country using your money to go to parties and social occasions and yet he allows your stewards to be attacked and sacked your drivers treated like dirt with no rights and no support no wonder paddy o fuels are doing just what they want
ReplyDeletenot heard a thing from the union about this years pay talks, thought 1st january 2012 was when wage negotiations for scottish fuels/gb oils were to be agreed by,
ReplyDeletegb oils don't only stuff the drivers over but other members of office staff as well.
ReplyDeleteYou won't hear much from the union now, they have given up wasting their time ! As this lot does what it wants , but they have a lot of problems with drivers who are taking the first chance to leave and if they stay they are not going to bust their guts ! Happy days
ReplyDeleteWhat union????? just take it when you had one did you back NO
ReplyDeleteSAT NAV's Fantastic invention,GB oils "its the way forward",try it
ReplyDeletethe first chance i get of getting out iam off,ive never worked for such a set of ruthless greedy robbing twats
ReplyDeletei've got my chance to get out, 20+ years i've been driveing a hosereel tanker. rebranded once, 4 different employers and 3 different yards but got still felt wanted and part of a team. then gb fu*^%$g oils came along (sorry, i can't say their name with out swearing) and what a compleat and utter bunch of shites. i'd rather not have a job for a while than work for this monster. good luck.
Deletesouthern driver
This union is really taking the piss they dont care at all about AD drivers all they care about is main fleet and they are on almost twice the amount we are. The checky bastards have even written on there enough is enough poster that if the main fleet wages come down then then AD's will have to follow what a load of rubbish they just want are support to help protect there inflated wages well I wish I could get 30-40 grand a year for one of two drops a day and where is there support for us we have put up with a complete change and abuse of our working conditions and our brothers on main fleet have been nowhere as long as the union goes running to protect them thats the main thing we are better of getting rid of unite cos they be shite and as for the shop stewards why dont you try ringing the big cheese's webb or drapper guess what they are to busy spending your membership money on there inflated wages
ReplyDeleteThis union is really taking the piss they dont care at all about AD drivers all they care about is main fleet and they are on almost twice the amount we are. The checky bastards have even written on there enough is enough poster that if the main fleet wages come down then then AD's will have to follow what a load of rubbish they just want are support to help protect there inflated wages well I wish I could get 30-40 grand a year for one of two drops a day and where is there support for us we have put up with a complete change and abuse of our working conditions and our brothers on main fleet have been nowhere as long as the union goes running to protect them thats the main thing we are better of getting rid of unite cos they be shite and as for the shop stewards why dont you try ringing the big cheese's webb or drapper guess what they are to busy spending your membership money on there inflated wages
ReplyDeleteI also hear they have suspended 3 drivers in the northwest, 1 for poss on his phone, 1 for loading to much product on his truck which other depots do aswell and 1 for sitting in his truck at a cutomer.
ReplyDeletei hope these drivers go to court and make the whole thig public so the customers can see too how well they treat and trust there frontline staff.
anybody can see they are looking for any excuise to get shut of drivers especially now total are on board and the warmer weather is on its way!!
DeleteAny driver on his personal mobile in a vehicle should be fired. It's company policy plain and simple! If he's overloaded the vehicle. How? If it's a terminal you shouldn't be loading on top of product and if it's depot then the driverhas obviously used the scully over ride, which again is breaking policy... I protect my drivers any way I can, but if they can't follow simple instructions they bring the realism of dismal on themselves!!!
Deletewith the amount we pay towards the union would it not be possible to create our own inhouse union .i dont know the legalities of it but i'd rather pay into something where we'd get something back.i seem to recall that we had a 90 odd% vote to take action but the union fucked about saying we have to check addresses etc. then hey-ho ,too late summer's here. had a job for kero with v.a.t. it was over 90 p a litre!!!!!!!keep going like that there won't be any customers left.the company would rather have commercial work that makes a small margin of couple pence as against (if they could hold back there greed & make a reasonable margin) of up to 10 p .surely the profit on kero is far greater.am i right or wrong.i appreciate i'm just a 2 a penny driver so perhaps someone could explain it to me!
ReplyDeleteDon't forget to keep your lunch money in your pockets boys ! Someone's after it ! No pay no work in my rule book ! Pension next boys ! If it's in your contract don't accept it , go to the union and we will hopefully get some action ! The reason they are charging 90p plus a ltr for kero is the sales are down a lot ! Short term gain long term pain ! Customers not happy at all and most don't forget ! All seems to be going wrong as far as I can see , but what do 25 year drivers know ! 2 a penny and grow on trees !
ReplyDeleteits the loyal customers on automatic top ups this company is ripping off and they are catching on to what we are doing and we are losing business however they will sell to a non loyal commercial customer for a 1p litre profit. we are going to have no customers left soon and what can those greedy union twats do about that? answers on a post card addresed to Paul Vian, GB oils, Warrington. The whole company is going down the pan because of greed and thick managment
ReplyDeletePension change letter arrived today, who is this worth more to? You guessed it right. Gb oils! Company will save 12.8% ni contributions ! Will only benefit us if they put this back into the scheme not their pockets ! They are not doing this for our benefit, plus if you take a pay cut the next pay rise will be less ! Smell a rat ?
ReplyDeleteI think we should all leave unite and join the RMT that would a fuck the enough is enough campain right up cos the poor main fleet drivers wouldnt have any money to go on strike and also that bob crewe would screw this gb oils even harder then they re srewing us im sure crappy unite would try and take it to the tuc but i think people are forgeting we pay unites wages so they should start doing something now !!!!
ReplyDeletein said pension letter the second to last paragraph says "change to your contractual terms and conditions of employment"does this mean your hours and pay can be changed to whatever they want.could they pay flat rates for o/time etc.etc.?????
ReplyDeleteThis is the start of what happens when the union is weak.
ReplyDeleteNo mate it's not a weak Union it's a weak work force.Look what happend when they got rid of all your good shopstewards did the men go to the gate!!!!! as for going to the RMT yes but if the men don't get a backbone whats the point.Unite or RTA it's all the same if the men will not stand up and be counted.As for the company their line is to get rid of the union and you will have to go to the driver forum to get a payrise and with some of the wankers from Jock land that are on that, you will have no chance. One of the jocks would have you paying for the privilege to work for this lot.Thats how good the forum is.
ReplyDeleteKeep up the good fight.
Fraser
talking of union yet again,my shopsteward has found out that we still wuoldn't be able to take any action because they(union) still haven't got our address' etc compiled. how many years does it take.got to be at least 2 years ago they where supposedly getting it set up.as many keep saying what the point of being part of it if they can't be bothered to get our details set up.they keep taking the money!but do very littlefor it.is it worth it .i'm in 2 minds
ReplyDeleteA lot of members are in two minds funny they have addresses for members in other companies .I know they have got myaddress as my card came here so how can they not send to addresses they do have?
ReplyDeleteHopefully when they get this strike out of the way, they can turn their attention to gb oils ! Don't forget what they did to our shop stewards ! If we don't get any help we are up shit creek without a paddle !
ReplyDeleteDoe's anyone know how we can put a new post on here? thanks.
ReplyDeletesend it to Fraser fraser-ross@hotmail.com
ReplyDeletefunny how now that the artic drivers want to take action we get forms to update our details with the union.we wont get anywhere though even when we get half the wage they get and several times more work
DeleteI know that this is a drivers' blog, but disgruntled customers like me would like to get a full list of GB Oils subsidiaries so that we can be sure that we are not buying from GB Oils. As someone who had been a customer since they took over all the oild deliveries in Elland, I only recently found out that they were ripping me off by over 10p a litre on kerosen, despite being paid up front by standing order. When I cancelled the contract, they said that if I had contacted them first they would have reduced the price.
DeleteThe issue with addresses is that your card will be posted from a central point. They don't necessarily know which contract you work for or at which location you work. All of this info is vital for any ballot to be legal. I'm not defending the union here, just pointing out a fact. I also know that a previous comment was correct in that the union has been promising to get our data organised for more than 2 years and are still no further forward. Apparently, it's a funding issue. Another comment was also correct that the workforce choose not to back their stewards, but even if the workforce wanted to back their stewards they couldn't anyway because our data isn't in order and any ballot would fail because of this fact alone. Catch 22 then. I suggest that if you're unhappy, write to Matt Draper at head office in Holborn London copying in Len McCluskey and tell them what you think and ask how they would like it if we all stopped paying our dues to them and joine URTU or similar. If enough of us do this we may get results
ReplyDeletewhy do you keep slagging the artic drivers ? we all have a chance in life to better ourselves so if you pay out of your own pocket like i did to get my class 1 then wait 18 months to get on artics for better pay what is wrong with that. to many people short sighted i think. if you want a debate then lets have 1. im all for work to rule but there are to many of you who look after number 1 and when it goes wrong you look for some one to blame.
ReplyDeleteGeneral question as anybody heard anything about this years pay rise, some contracts where due in April? Driver Norh East area.
ReplyDeletewhy we worried about the union ?......we need to stick together as drivers,then ..and only then will we see a change in our own terms and conditions,we"ve fell so far behind the rest of the industry with regards to pay,pension,sick pay....thank Christ im not on the new GB OILS contract.....
ReplyDeleteComment on Apr 17 at 07:21 why do you consider that by being an "artic driver" your better than any other driver working for GB Oils ? It is this kind of attitude that creates divisions between drivers. I have worked on either side of the fence, on both artics and now on a ridged tanker, mostly delivering to domestic customers. I can have up to 20 drops in a day, in what I consider is a far harder and skilled job, than driving an artic doing perhaps 2 drops a day. But, I realise that we need to work together as a team and that I'm no better or worse than you, even if my tankers not as big !!!!
ReplyDelete39 comments all on the same topic basically, thats why you dont get anything done coz you argue on a forum and dont aggree on anythging so how the hell can you all stick together with the union. it makes me giggle when i read it !
ReplyDelete7 more drivers to be made redundent in s.s.e. due to new london area & pace merger,but if you want to travel at your own expense & go on the G.B. oils contract you can work out of thames or croydon.(5 positions).we lose yet again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletei am one of the drivers waiting to see who gets the chop.Yes i can change my contract to a gb one,but will hace to travel to either croydon,thameshaven or Harefield.should put abot 4 hours on my day in travel not to mention the travelling costs.14 years out the window all because of gb's greed.Where is the union for us unlucky seven from the SSE region.
ReplyDeletesame as usual.bugger all.i did the 8.27 p.m. comment and am also waiting for the end.most of the s.s.e. drivers have been delivering up towards dartford/london area,quite agree with 3.01 it there greed yet again.does it save them that much money .
DeleteRef comments 8.27pmand 3.01pm Sorry to here you guys are up for the chop,this is gb oils {The employer of choice} there words not mine !!!.The same thing happened to us in the north east when when they merged Pearts and Bayfords into the GB Empire down from 11 drivers to 7.I was one of the lucky ones i got finished yes thats right,got another job neverlooked back, so keep your chin up lads there is better employers out there.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the words of support 9.02pm. I remember those words from our employer GB OILS THE EMPLOYER OF CHOICE.choice for whom.there certainly must be better employers because there certainly cannot be any worse than them.(I am secretly hoping that i will be one of the lucky ones)the whole of my depot is filled with depression since they told us seven for the chop. GB oils have treated ALL their workers with utter contempt
ReplyDeletesaid it before and i will say it again they are ruthless
DeleteHI, please can you make it easy to start a new link on here alot of drivers have tried, so lets get it sorted.
ReplyDeleteA new link to what ??????
ReplyDeletea s.s.e driver .gb oils have now offered £65 a month london waiting allowance for anyone who wants to transfer. that'll pay ,if your lucky for 4-5 days of fuel.what are we all waiting for.how generous.to me it's blackmail .take one of these jobs or you could be without one.
Deletethey have also extended the deadline to apply for transfer to their wonderful gb contract. seems no one is taking up the offer..Wonder why???. Oh and people in the midlands would snap these positions up they tell us.....
Deletewhy are all u people moaning like a bunch of kids about the union???
ReplyDeleteyou are the ones paying into this black hole every month.i have paid union fees for the past 15 years. and what have they done?? piss all. so last month i stoped paying. if more people stopped paying there fees they might start fighting for us.enough is enough stop paying for nothing.
I sincerely hope that"the Board"of GB Oils,(whoever they are on their FAt salaries) can Sleep well in their beds after destroying many good mens lives with their GREED and hope that one day they get their cumuppance. SLEEP WELL GB OILS
ReplyDeletewe where told if x amount agreed to work out of thames then there would be less redundencies and the matrix system would stop. 4 have applied (to my knowledge) to go there and been for interviews but still no one has told them they have the jobs.so what is going on.is it that they want to carry on so they can get rid of the ones they dont want.sickness? not yes men etc.something doesn't seem right
DeleteWe had one who applied for volantry redundancy, but was turnned down all because they want to get rid of a different driver. Surley if on wants volantry and they turn it down then they have NO right to make another driver redundant? And still they cant tell us who it will be after more than 4 weeks
ReplyDeleteThey want to get rid of everyone who is not on a GB contract. This will happen all over again next year, only it will probably be Whole depots
ReplyDeletewhat is the gb contract. we have heard nothing of it up north. It can't be as shit as the brogans contract or we would have been offered it.
ReplyDeleteThe yellow cowards STILL havent told us which ones are to loose our jobs after almost 6 weeks of being told 7 are to be made redundant. What cowards they are!!! So our lives still have to be on hold. GB OILS THE EMPLOYER OF CHOICE
ReplyDeleteThere Waiting to see if any of ya f*ck up first then that saves them money, its clear to see thats what there doing all over the country its what there doing in northwest. Keep ya nose clean,
ReplyDelete2 drivers that where preparedto go to thamesside have now found out that there is no overtime rate through the week,flat money.only weekends is paid at overtime.so guess what ,they now have changed there minds.dear oh dear .why dont we all work for nothing .i'm so proud to work for g.b.oils/dcc!!!!!!!! don't think this is it in s.s.e. region.when total come onboard in a few weeks(5-6) we hear there will be another round of the matrix
ReplyDeleteby the time we find out who is being made redundant, the winter will be almost upon us as it has been over 6 weeks now. Will we be asked to stay on to help them through the busy period i wonder??. And as 8.43PM rightly says what is going to happen when Total Butler are fully intergrated??
ReplyDeletelook on gboils recrutement web site -HR vacancy -to sack more of u no doubt. i was made redundant nearly 4 years ago,never looked back. now treated like a person not a number.good luck !
ReplyDeletecomment @ 1:42 pm. you say you never looked back? How is it you end up on the gb oils recruitment site?
ReplyDeletecomment @ 6:52am, still like to see whats going on,is it a crime? gb oils really shafted me,but i have moved on to another fuel company,but as gb are our only competition i like to keep up to date.-- its interesting to see how many driver vacancies gb have -----NONE !!!!
ReplyDeletewell they ballsed up again.out of 7 to be made redundent ,3 have got problems.(2 on the matrix.1 on hols owed)so they couldn't finalize them today.how can a regional manager tell you at a meeting that it was nothing to do with her how many went from each depot.then you get told it was her decision after the event.seems strange that there where no redundencies at her own depot(fuelcare) yet they have only got 6-7 months of wellworker info(spills etc.) on the system for that depot. how can that be fair.befofe that they just had words .yet another stitch up.some good drivers gone.those that run up there own arse & do 50 drops a day , can have numerous incidents & yet they stay!!!!!!!!!!!good luck to all those that have gone.
Deletelets hope that now the "Dirty Deed" has been done that the
ReplyDeleteB*tch is sulplus to GB requirements and She gets the boot. She has got rid of Good Drivers with a mountain of knowledge and service whilst there are others tbat Drag their heels all the time and get away with it.I hope All the drivers that have been sacked find something quick and never look back. They were not only work collegues but Friends.
quite agree with 8.37 pm except it hasnt totally finished.one guy is being badgered to take voluntary redun. even though he is no longer on the bottom cause they fucked up his points.total shambles.employers of choice,no-way.its a nessessity to pay the bills.they know there is not much work around that why the newer gb contract now pays no overtime in theweek.more money for shareholders.
Deletethis redundency fiasco goes on.3 drivers where told only 2-3 weeks ago there jobs were safe & not at the bottom.now they out of work.if a driver made this much of a cock-up they'd be down the road.lets hope the h.r.person & manager responsible get there just deserts.(we all know different)
ReplyDeleteand where is the union (ha) in all this i find it amazing that g.b.oils are still getting away with this and treating us like shit we really are our own worst enemies things just go on and on and on this is 2012..... you,d think we were back in the dark ages...i thought our grandfathers and fathers fought for better working conditions....then along come g.b.oils buy up our old companies, were we had good jobs, were well thought of and were happy working and g.b.oils start treating us like shit and have us frightened to go out and do our jobs...happy days ahead...all those general haulage drivers who think tanker drivers have the best jobs should try working for g.b.oils..
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ReplyDeleteApproval from who???
ReplyDeleteThe best thing about working for this tot is I'm doing half the work I was doing before ! Do the job properly, take your time, and don't correct bad routing ! Use it to your advantage. Eventually dcc will sort the poor management out , a few are nipping thier cheeks together and looking over their shoulders ! But that's what you get when you keep appointing from in house. Most of them couldn't do thier first job properly ! ,
ReplyDeleteHere here 5.31
ReplyDeleteand we work for a company that lets the driver sqobble with each other and see you at each others throats, now a driver has a panic attack about the greif at E/port, lets see how the manager handles that when before he took the managers job he said he would get rid of him first chance...
Come come now,GB Oils are a super company...They even paid for my pre-frontal lobotomy, Rock on Tommy!!!
ReplyDeleteGuess they will be looking for witer relief drivers shortly.....Anyone interested??
ReplyDeleteHa ha what a circus
ReplyDeleteOh circus is an understatment, even the management are at it, one area manager got acused of sexual harrassment on another depot manager, and one new manager knocking a slice off a office worker.
ReplyDeleteCircus,its a soap opera...
perhapes what all tanker drivers in the uk should do is start their own union up may be we could call it ntu the national tanker driver's union, we could recruit every driver in every sector of the industry as long as the driver's stuck together every time an employer behaves the way gb oils behaves. "Everyone's out the door". Then wouldnt the big oil companies soon get pissed off with paddy o fuels. Unite dosn't care and its no good people coming on here saying its not the union's fault its the drivers not sticking together the common worker needs leadership not vast amounts of money lifted out of their pockets by a union that stands back and allows all of these companies to act the way they are acting, in fact fuck it lets stop coming on here winging lets start a campaign to set our own union up,, Ive spoken to a lot of main fleet drivers who feel the same way, and they would be interested in a union that deals with our problems and not every-body else's. Are you with me all will someone come on here issuing me a load abuse trying to justify the fact "unite are shite". We need leadership and we need it going in to this winter before more damage is done to your jobs, and now with Total Butler coming in to the company they will be getting rid of more and more drivers and guess what no one will be able to get hold of that lazy cunt Matt Drapper. Can we start a new link on here?, to debate the fact that the union does fuck all for us and we now want to start our own at the vary least it will frighten the shit out of unite and our employers. Also Ive looked into the logistics of starting a union and its alot easier they you might think I've approached some top employment barristers and they will provide a lot better legal service then unite will. The money taking in for this new union would be for admin and the driver's welfare not great big salary's for people like Drapper who can't even be arssed to answer his phone. Thank you for taking your time to read this. "Its time to give dignity back to the driver".
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